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Post by standing stone on May 6, 2016 9:32:01 GMT
Love the way you sweetened the deal there, S.C.!  You make me wonder whether the one great piece would be a good enough pay off, timewise for listening to a lot of "less liked" music...... I think that more reflects my lack of sticking power.... I don't have the capacity to listen to music that doesn't work for me within 30 seconds max! digitalmonkey, I'm in the same place with my thinking too. I'd miss Radio 3's World on 3, but the thought of having collected my music for life already is quite a nice one, for the same reasons. And yes, absolutely no contest - walking our paths in nature beats everything. beef, you are so right - music all around us, so I suppose if there were to be no new music, then perhaps evolution in all sounding things, natural and manmade, would halt as a (rather large and possibly desirable) consequence. I've had a peek at pixelmonkeys and look forward to a play later - cheers! : Shame you gave up - I hope you rediscover your keyboard joy! deserttraveller - close your eyes and you're there! |
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Post by sc on May 6, 2016 10:33:36 GMT
.... I don't have the capacity to listen to music that doesn't work for me within 30 seconds max! You really should try the harder ones SS, when they suddenly "click" in your brain, the richness, textures and meaning flood through, the feeling is wonderful and it is hard to remember why you found it so difficult. The first time I listened to John Coltrane's - A Love Supreme, it just seemed a chaotic jumble of notes and beats, but after a lot (and I mean a lot, about a year to 18 months every Friday night) of listening, it suddenly clicked, the random jumble of notes, suddenly became pure wondrous poetry, utter, utter, gold. I'm not suggesting you try that piece, but the best things in life, do require a little work to be really appreciated. I find the "instantly liked" equals the "quickly bored" a lot of the time with music. I guess also that is why I love Womad and World Music so much, when you come across a new music you have never heard the like of before and your brain is saying "what the hell is this.another kind of smiley" It's time to dive into the confusion and discover it's riches |
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Post by standing stone on May 6, 2016 11:06:45 GMT
Tried and failed, S.C. ......I didn't find anything, so don't spend the time anymore - all brains work differently, and you are evidently deeply dedicated and therefore reap the rewards ) |
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Post by standing stone on May 6, 2016 14:54:16 GMT
"Instanty liked" equals "quickly bored" - interesting, S.C. .......... and maybe the reason I don't feel the need to have every CD an artist/band produces........ who knows..... |
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Post by sc on May 6, 2016 16:07:01 GMT
"Instanty liked" equals "quickly bored" - interesting, S.C. .......... and maybe the reason I don't feel the need to have every CD an artist/band produces........ who knows..... Maybe but I doubt it, I don't feel then need either to own every piece of work an artist I like has produced (or get signed copies), I only ever had one Prince album, but love it to bits I suppose what I am saying is the "depth" of the work. When I bought a Hayseed Dixie CD I played it to death for a couple of weeks, never play it now, it's always the same, I never discover anything new in it, it is fun but for me it's shallow (still do great gigs though). In contrast, Patti Smith Horses, owned it since I was about 18, never tired of it, have both the studio and live versions, CD and Vinyl, researched it, still play it regularly, still seems fresh and relevant, because it has depth, it still speaks to me but doesn't give up it's secrets. So often when I hear music I don't understand, I want to understand it, the harder that task is, the better the reward. (Not saying Horses is a difficult album, it's just an example) Surely that is just the same with most things in life, if you have two people who both want a boat, one is married to a multimillionaire and who simply writes out a cheque for them and buys one, they don't even notice the money leaving their account. The 2nd person, works overtime for two years, scrimps and saves, goes without and then buys a boat. Surely, the 2nd person will love their boat more, look after it and feel more rewarded because they worked for it, rather than just asking? Some music for me is like that, it takes a bit of work but the reward is huge But we are all different, you are probably simply very lucky and have the right brain to understand new music quickly, me I am just a plodder |
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Post by standing stone on May 9, 2016 12:30:35 GMT
Music evokes different responses in everyone. I admire your tenaciousness in understanding music S.C. .. I don't think of it as plodding at all! My brain finds other things similarly absorbing, and the need to understand things is one I feel strongly in those areas, but somehow music doesn't travel the same pathways. If music isn't speaking to me, I don't listen. It isn't something I feel the need to work at. That is how I am now. That is not to say I am this way forever, as I have found so much has changed over the years in terms of likes and dislikes (not least I music - I reach saturation point), tastes, ways of thinking, emotional triggers etc, that I'm not ruling out the possibility of one day "getting" music I don't "get" now ......... and playing the violin - I look forward to these! Just interested, is there any music genre you have fallen out of love/joy/interest with over the years, or have you kept it all afresh? |
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Post by sc on May 9, 2016 13:08:25 GMT
Definitely one genre that I have fallen out of love/joy/interest and one sub-genre I never have had any love/joy/interest in. As most white young males in the mid to late '70's I was into Prog Rock, now the 1970's Prog Rock Classic Guitar bands just leave me totally cold, particularly at it's worst with the likes of Boston, some Genesis is just bearable (but I do love and often quote the Young Ones with "God I'm sooooo bored I could listen to Genesis) Sorry PG and Pink Floyd (Dark side of the Moon I can still listen to........... very occasionally), with the exception of Genesis and Pink Floyd, prog rock seems very two dimensional now, no depth. Never got into what I mockingly call "Hobbit Rock", rock that sings about mystical figures, slaying dragons etc. Wishbone Ash and King Crimson type bands, in recent years I have honestly tried as 3 friends of mine love it and regularly see them when touring. Just seems to me the words and music have nothing to say, it does not deal with anything I can relate to or in fact deal with anything! To me just seems like rock that was designed to appeal to white middle class Grammar School boys who had no experience of life at all. Harsh but that's what I feel. I don't have those "anti" feelings for any other genre of music that I can think of. Sorry if I offended Genesis or Pink Floyd fans. And to Boston or Hobbit Rock fans.......... what can I say.another kind of smiley?? |
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Post by digitalmonkey on May 9, 2016 18:38:18 GMT
.... I don't have the capacity to listen to music that doesn't work for me within 30 seconds max! You really should try the harder ones SS, when they suddenly "click" in your brain, the richness, textures and meaning flood through, the feeling is wonderful and it is hard to remember why you found it so difficult. The first time I listened to John Coltrane's - A Love Supreme, it just seemed a chaotic jumble of notes and beats, but after a lot (and I mean a lot, about a year to 18 months every Friday night) of listening, it suddenly clicked, the random jumble of notes, suddenly became pure wondrous poetry, utter, utter, gold. Funny enough, I really struggled to get Miles Davis' A Kind Of Blue on initial purchase and kindda put me off Jazz as I continued down a more folky and country path. However, played it for the shear hell of it once and I then Igot it . Having said that I haven't played it much recently and still not really bought too many other Jazz cds since.
There are cds though that are probably impossible to get despite numerous listens. Coldplay or Adele spring to mind for me
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Post by digitalmonkey on May 9, 2016 18:43:41 GMT
"Instanty liked" equals "quickly bored" - interesting, S.C. .......... and maybe the reason I don't feel the need to have every CD an artist/band produces........ who knows..... I completely relate to this. So much great music out it would be shear lunacy (and bloody expensive) to buy everything released by every artist you liked.
Of many of the classic pop artists I generally stick to the obvious; Piper at Gates of Dawn, WYWH and DSOTM for The Floyd; Good Vibrations for the Beach Boys; Da Capo and Forever Changes for LOve etc.. I generally avoid the 80's for pretty much everything, a poor decade for the likes of Dylan, Cash, Neil Young, songwriters generally.
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