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Post by standing stone on Feb 13, 2018 9:42:45 GMT
Sometimes I feel the corporate vision is lost in striving for the perfect grey corporate person; You tick all the boxes but would hate the role. My son, the one with an IQ of 147, had a 1/44 chance of getting into corporate banking and did so. Money was truly epic, he left after 2 years, didn't fit him, so much for the corporate HR, they got him all wrong. This is the thing - ticking all the boxes but hating the role. Tricky to change direction when you have a string of jobs in one field, I found. In fact I didn't succeed. I hope your son has now found somewhere which is a better fit for him. |
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Post by deserttraveller on Feb 13, 2018 21:29:46 GMT
Yes he has moved to Sweden where they look upon him kindly with sad faces as they cannot get to grips with why a country so apparently clever is Brixitting. Lots of sympathy & questions, the most popular was 'Are they
really going to Brexit'?
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Post by calndel on Feb 13, 2018 22:12:42 GMT
being interview for an internal post by managesr you know are incompetent and you've had a few run in with in the past
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Post by standing stone on Feb 14, 2018 9:14:51 GMT
Yes he has moved to Sweden where they look upon him kindly with sad faces as they cannot get to grips with why a country so apparently clever is Brixitting. Lots of sympathy & questions, the most popular was 'Are they really going to Brexit'? I'm with Sweden on this.... |
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Post by standing stone on Feb 14, 2018 9:15:36 GMT
being interview for an internal post by managesr you know are incompetent and you've had a few run in with in the past Yes, I can see how that would get in the way!  |
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Post by standing stone on Feb 14, 2018 9:16:56 GMT
My meeting is tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon, so if there's anything else anyone would like to add, please could you do so before midnight tonight? Thanks X
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Post by standing stone on Feb 15, 2018 20:13:51 GMT
Thank you for all of your comments and experiences and observations which have been anonymously copied and pasted and handed in to the focus group meeting this afternoon. In two years time, apparently, there will be more people 45+ looking for work than any other age range. Local employers are being canvassed and ideas put forward that they should be invited to hold recruitment fairs specifically for 45+, just as there were school leaver and college leaver job fares years back (and probably still are today). Online tests universally a bug bear, though IT generally remains a huge problem; and additional barrier to crack for many people who have had no dealings with IT. Having been long term employed at one company brings its own challenges - no recent interview experience or cv. Please feel free to make additions to this thread - I can still pass on your thoughts. Thanks again. X |
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Post by sc on Feb 15, 2018 21:00:29 GMT
Probably one thing I would like to quickly say is something I heard of Radio 4 and made an impression on me. It was talking about new businesses started up by 50+ year olds. That age group is THE MOST SUCCESSFUL age group for the business still being in existence in 7 years time.
Why? Is it experience? No Old and wise? No
The answer is that a lot of that age group have paid for their house, their kids are through Uni and have left home, they may have been made redundant and or have a pension coming in. Therefore, if the house and bills are paid for by a pension then a 50+ year old may well start up a business and be happy that it earns them £500 a month, all of the £500 is disposable income!!! They have never been richer.
Compare that with a 30 year old, they have a kid and one on the way plus trying to buy their first house at £250,000. £500 a month ain't gunna cut it they will need £4,000 or so a month at least.
And so it can be with a job ......... if you are 45+ do you really need that big job you used to have? Would you be happier delivering for Tesco's? No worries, no stress, no heart attack?
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Post by sc on Feb 16, 2018 7:38:16 GMT
Totally different games for the young and the mature. Illustrated on the Postcode affordability tool at the bottom of the article. Set it to "buy" and "3 Beds" and see how much the South East is. But jobs are not priced on the basis on House Price Cost or on the age of the applicant. A Local Government Worker pretty much earns the same in Royal Tunbridge Wells as they do in Grimsby, but their housing costs one hell of a lot more! The young HAVE to fight to get to the top quickly if they are to get housed and have a family, or as is happening now, they just give up. We as the older generation, if we have already bought and paid for a house, are lucky in that respect, but we don't have to play the money game. Look to what is important to you and your family. I know it's cheesy but that old saying that someone on their deathbed may say "I wish I knew my kids better, I wish I'd treated my wife better, I wish I'd kept in touch with old friends, I wish I slept with more women, I wish we'd had more fun, but they never say, I wish I'd spent longer in the office." www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43075099 |
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Post by standing stone on Feb 16, 2018 8:50:16 GMT
Great posts, both, S.C. So many things can happen along the way too which have profound affects, whatever age, which shake up personal priorities and working patterns. Life is messy. Curious as to how I'll find going from not playing the money game to working full time and shifts now! Needs must - that's all there is to it for now! I really think I was mad last year! |
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Post by standing stone on Feb 17, 2018 10:21:05 GMT
On the tests - I made a polite enquiry as to their relevance to the role and have received a response (great - I didn't actually expect one) -
"Unfortunately there is quite a lot of time pressure for the job role as it involves quickly reading correspondence, making a decision and sending out a response then updating the system in quite a short space of time (as we get paid per piece of correspondence answered so if we don’t do enough we don’t make a profit or even make a loss), it’s unfortunate as we have had some very capable people who just struggle with the time aspect of it."
...as, I think, would I, so fair enough. I'm more a detail person.
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Post by sc on Feb 17, 2018 14:59:50 GMT
On the tests - I made a polite enquiry as to their relevance to the role and have received a response (great - I didn't actually expect one) - "Unfortunately there is quite a lot of time pressure for the job role as it involves quickly reading correspondence, making a decision and sending out a response then updating the system in quite a short space of time (as we get paid per piece of correspondence answered so if we don’t do enough we don’t make a profit or even make a loss), it’s unfortunate as we have had some very capable people who just struggle with the time aspect of it." ...as, I think, would I, so fair enough. I'm more a detail person. Very good of them to give such a thorough and complete response. It also clearly states "Why" they are testing |
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Post by calndel on Feb 17, 2018 21:55:03 GMT
group interviews for jobs for people who should be good at listening to other people
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Post by standing stone on Feb 19, 2018 9:40:13 GMT
group interviews for jobs for people who should be good at listening to other people Yes, I agree, tailor the interview fit the role |
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Post by sc on Feb 19, 2018 13:43:19 GMT
Interview Technique: - Know your CV or application form, be ready to expand on anything it contains - Be excited by the prospective job, - Be happy, smile and make good eye contact throughout the interview to all members of the interview panel. - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, criticise or grumble about an ex-employer no matter how badly you feel you were treated. The Interviewer may well think "This is what they will be saying about me in 6 months time ...............NEXt" - It's ok to crack a joke if appropriate, most employers want humour in the workplace and they want good team players, but be careful not to offend anyone or give the impression you are not taking the interview seriously. - Do some research into the prospective Company and try to slip that into the interview. - Be on time! - Try to apply your personality and experience to the job. - Enjoy the experience, if you are enjoying it, your comfortable and confident then the interviewers will be also, it's contagious! Must be more but can't think right now |
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